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		<title>By: liz</title>
		<link>http://lizkeogh.com/2009/05/28/feedback-sandwiches-and-real-options/comment-page-1/#comment-13206</link>
		<dc:creator>liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Jonathan, that&#039;s much better! I&#039;d probably go further. There&#039;s still a &quot;but&quot; there. Since it negates the previous part of the sentence, we could say something like, &quot;I know this might be embarassing, but...&quot;. I&#039;ve learnt a lot more about language and the way it affects our subconscious since I wrote the post, and I believe doing this would mean he would be *less* embarassed as a result. Nifty!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Jonathan, that&#8217;s much better! I&#8217;d probably go further. There&#8217;s still a &#8220;but&#8221; there. Since it negates the previous part of the sentence, we could say something like, &#8220;I know this might be embarassing, but&#8230;&#8221;. I&#8217;ve learnt a lot more about language and the way it affects our subconscious since I wrote the post, and I believe doing this would mean he would be *less* embarassed as a result. Nifty!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 19:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Liz,

I really like your dive into this issue.  I think this is a topic that should be taught to high schoolers.  It&#039;s too late in life to be learning this now!

In any case, I have a suggestion for how to possibly improve the unpalatable behavior example:

“I love that you have so much energy. It really comes out when I’m sitting next to you pair-programming, and you throw your arms in the air and wave them, and it makes me feel really energized too.  If we could just deal with one thing that&#039;s distracting me a little, it&#039;d mean we could keep the energy going.  And please don&#039;t be embarrassed and feel free to let me know what I can do also ... but I really think it would help if you could try some of the new Lynx fragrances, and my friend rates Right Guard; something like that would smell nice.”

In this case, the use of &quot;Unfortunately...&quot; seemed to me a lot like the negating &quot;But...&quot; example that you provided earlier in the post.

-Jonathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Liz,</p>
<p>I really like your dive into this issue.  I think this is a topic that should be taught to high schoolers.  It&#8217;s too late in life to be learning this now!</p>
<p>In any case, I have a suggestion for how to possibly improve the unpalatable behavior example:</p>
<p>“I love that you have so much energy. It really comes out when I’m sitting next to you pair-programming, and you throw your arms in the air and wave them, and it makes me feel really energized too.  If we could just deal with one thing that&#8217;s distracting me a little, it&#8217;d mean we could keep the energy going.  And please don&#8217;t be embarrassed and feel free to let me know what I can do also &#8230; but I really think it would help if you could try some of the new Lynx fragrances, and my friend rates Right Guard; something like that would smell nice.”</p>
<p>In this case, the use of &#8220;Unfortunately&#8230;&#8221; seemed to me a lot like the negating &#8220;But&#8230;&#8221; example that you provided earlier in the post.</p>
<p>-Jonathan</p>
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		<title>By: liz</title>
		<link>http://lizkeogh.com/2009/05/28/feedback-sandwiches-and-real-options/comment-page-1/#comment-3670</link>
		<dc:creator>liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 16:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim,

Chris Pollard has a great style of feedback he refers to as &quot;Atkins&quot; - the sandwich model without the bread. We&#039;ve agreed that it&#039;s very effective if the stuff that&#039;s valued has already been stated, or if you have great rapport with the person you&#039;re talking to and they can ask questions about the feedback freely.

So, by the time I get know an individual to work out that they&#039;re the kind that prefers direct feedback, we&#039;ve probably already stated the stuff that I value anyway and got it pinned down. In that case, yes, I am sometimes direct.

This model can do some magic though. A lot of the time when I use it people don&#039;t even notice that I&#039;ve just given them some feedback. They say &quot;That&#039;s pretty cool!&quot; and try out one of the options, or think of their own. For me, that habit of self-improvement is more powerful than any feedback I could give.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jim,</p>
<p>Chris Pollard has a great style of feedback he refers to as &#8220;Atkins&#8221; &#8211; the sandwich model without the bread. We&#8217;ve agreed that it&#8217;s very effective if the stuff that&#8217;s valued has already been stated, or if you have great rapport with the person you&#8217;re talking to and they can ask questions about the feedback freely.</p>
<p>So, by the time I get know an individual to work out that they&#8217;re the kind that prefers direct feedback, we&#8217;ve probably already stated the stuff that I value anyway and got it pinned down. In that case, yes, I am sometimes direct.</p>
<p>This model can do some magic though. A lot of the time when I use it people don&#8217;t even notice that I&#8217;ve just given them some feedback. They say &#8220;That&#8217;s pretty cool!&#8221; and try out one of the options, or think of their own. For me, that habit of self-improvement is more powerful than any feedback I could give.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Arnold</title>
		<link>http://lizkeogh.com/2009/05/28/feedback-sandwiches-and-real-options/comment-page-1/#comment-3663</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 12:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Liz,

[I was going to prepare a feedback sandwich, but just can&#039;t stomach it!]

This is an interesting read (and topic), *but* something really bugs me about this style of communication.  I prefer people to be direct with me; I would go as far as saying I respect them more for being direct.  When I talk to people who try to edge around an issue in this way I come away feeling either patronised or unsure what it was we were discussing.

It all sounds a bit passive aggressive to me.  That&#039;s not to say it can&#039;t be effective in some situations, but you should be prepared to be more direct with people who value that approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Liz,</p>
<p>[I was going to prepare a feedback sandwich, but just can't stomach it!]</p>
<p>This is an interesting read (and topic), *but* something really bugs me about this style of communication.  I prefer people to be direct with me; I would go as far as saying I respect them more for being direct.  When I talk to people who try to edge around an issue in this way I come away feeling either patronised or unsure what it was we were discussing.</p>
<p>It all sounds a bit passive aggressive to me.  That&#8217;s not to say it can&#8217;t be effective in some situations, but you should be prepared to be more direct with people who value that approach.</p>
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