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	<title>Comments on: Scrum vs. Kanban: FIGHT!</title>
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		<title>By: Ben Sanders</title>
		<link>http://lizkeogh.com/2009/09/16/scrum-vs-kanban-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-5410</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I would have pictured XP as Scorpion :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I would have pictured XP as Scorpion <img src='http://lizkeogh.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Roderick</title>
		<link>http://lizkeogh.com/2009/09/16/scrum-vs-kanban-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-5401</link>
		<dc:creator>Roderick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed the humour and insight. Another perspective ...

http://www.cioforum.co.za/publiccioforum/topic_026.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed the humour and insight. Another perspective &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cioforum.co.za/publiccioforum/topic_026.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cioforum.co.za/publiccioforum/topic_026.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tobias Mayer</title>
		<link>http://lizkeogh.com/2009/09/16/scrum-vs-kanban-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-5397</link>
		<dc:creator>Tobias Mayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Eugene
1. &quot;...you don’t have any chances to gain it back after it has been lost.&quot;  This is simply not true.
2. Conditional/partial trust is not trust at all.

Trust has nothing to do with the other person.  It has everything to do with you.  It is a expression of the way you choose to live your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eugene<br />
1. &#8220;&#8230;you don’t have any chances to gain it back after it has been lost.&#8221;  This is simply not true.<br />
2. Conditional/partial trust is not trust at all.</p>
<p>Trust has nothing to do with the other person.  It has everything to do with you.  It is a expression of the way you choose to live your life.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Freeman</title>
		<link>http://lizkeogh.com/2009/09/16/scrum-vs-kanban-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-5375</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kanban: Scrum. Join me, together we can conquer the Universe.

Scrum: Never!

Kanban: Scrum... I am your father.

Scrum: Noooooooooooooooo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kanban: Scrum. Join me, together we can conquer the Universe.</p>
<p>Scrum: Never!</p>
<p>Kanban: Scrum&#8230; I am your father.</p>
<p>Scrum: Noooooooooooooooo!</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Nizker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Nizker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The parties in this conversations assume that:

1. The trust, once gained, is gained forever.  This is rather naive since it can be lost much easier than gained.  And you don&#039;t have any chances to gain it back after it has been lost.

2. The trust is a binary thing: either it exists or it doesn&#039;t.  This is a bit naive too since trust and its level depend on many circumstances.  I trust you in this situation, but not in that; you trust me &quot;to certain extent&quot; (never heard this?); i trust you if my boss trusts you; you trust me on the condition that i prove blah to someone who&#039;s opinion is important to you; etc, and so on.  Trust is a combination of many subtle things.

I realize that the conversation is not aimed to address any serious matters and is rather fun, but still...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The parties in this conversations assume that:</p>
<p>1. The trust, once gained, is gained forever.  This is rather naive since it can be lost much easier than gained.  And you don&#8217;t have any chances to gain it back after it has been lost.</p>
<p>2. The trust is a binary thing: either it exists or it doesn&#8217;t.  This is a bit naive too since trust and its level depend on many circumstances.  I trust you in this situation, but not in that; you trust me &#8220;to certain extent&#8221; (never heard this?); i trust you if my boss trusts you; you trust me on the condition that i prove blah to someone who&#8217;s opinion is important to you; etc, and so on.  Trust is a combination of many subtle things.</p>
<p>I realize that the conversation is not aimed to address any serious matters and is rather fun, but still&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Little</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Little</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ha! thanks for this....made my day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ha! thanks for this&#8230;.made my day!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://lizkeogh.com/2009/09/16/scrum-vs-kanban-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-5371</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then of course, there&#039;s ScrumBan:

http://leansoftwareengineering.com/ksse/scrum-ban/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then of course, there&#8217;s ScrumBan:</p>
<p><a href="http://leansoftwareengineering.com/ksse/scrum-ban/" rel="nofollow">http://leansoftwareengineering.com/ksse/scrum-ban/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Rooney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Rooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A punch line (no pun intended) for the ages!!  Nicely done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A punch line (no pun intended) for the ages!!  Nicely done.</p>
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		<title>By: Franco Martinig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franco Martinig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an interesting article on this topic by Henrik Kniberg &quot;Kanban vs Scrum - How to make the most of both&quot;
(http://www.crisp.se/henrik.kniberg/Kanban-vs-Scrum.pdf)

Maybe collaborating is better than fighting ;o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an interesting article on this topic by Henrik Kniberg &#8220;Kanban vs Scrum &#8211; How to make the most of both&#8221;<br />
(<a href="http://www.crisp.se/henrik.kniberg/Kanban-vs-Scrum.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.crisp.se/henrik.kniberg/Kanban-vs-Scrum.pdf</a>)</p>
<p>Maybe collaborating is better than fighting ;o)</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew D Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew D Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A nicely laid out conundrum to the &quot;which one&quot; battle.  We&#039;re in this together...so synthesize and evolve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nicely laid out conundrum to the &#8220;which one&#8221; battle.  We&#8217;re in this together&#8230;so synthesize and evolve.</p>
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